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Is this really cold? What about Valley Forge?

Is this really cold? What about Valley Forge?

I often ask myself when I am complaining inwardly about the cold, "Is this really cold? What about Valley Forge?"

Winter cabins Valley Forge National ParkI am usually wearing multiple layers of good modern materials designed to keep me warm, decent gloves, solid shoes, a scarf and a hat and coat. Back in the 18th century when the American Colonial Army sheltered in Valley Forge after the Battle of the Brandywine it was cold. Most of the men had threadbare clothing, often no shoes and little or no pay. That was cold, little to keep your spirits up and food was short as well. There was little organization in the army at that time and the whole defence of America almost came to an end. If only the British had realized how bad it was they would have pushed out from Philadelphia and easily ended the revolution.

So, complaining today, even though it has been forecast to be some of the coldest days in the past 9 years is no where near as bad as what the Colonial Army suffered. Which is probably why the site is a National Park, and we honor the men who suffered through those days and their leaders who managed to maintain their morale and keep them in camp when they could have returned home.

Maybe these photos of a previous winter will help you to imagine a little of that and keep your thoughts from becoming too complaining over the next few days. When it snows as heavily as in these photos, lots of people come out to play at the park, cross country skiing, sledding and simply getting out for a walk in the cold brisk weather. Stay safe and enjoy.

Valley Forge Park winter

Valley Forge Park winter

Valley Forge Park winter

Valley Forge cabins winter

Valley Forge memorial arch winter

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Comment balloon 24 commentsNick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543 • December 16 2016 07:35PM

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That Valley Forge area was barren and had to be cold. Then he got into a boat for a trip across the Delaware river.  That too would have been cold

Posted by Ed Silva, Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally (RE/MAX Professionals, CT 203-206-0754 ) over 1 year ago

Yes Ed it was and all the paintings, almost said photos, show him with his coat open. They were robust and hardy people in those days.

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

I'm sure those a little further up in the northern Midwest or New England, and certainly our friends in Canada would have a good laugh about what we consider 'cold'.  

 

Although....CA has got me grabbing for a jacket when things dip below 60 these days....I don't think I'd last in Valley Forge!

Posted by John Meussner, #MortgageMadeEasy Walnut Creek, CA 484-680-4852 (Mason-McDuffie Mortgage, Conventional Loans, Jumbo Loans, FHA, 203(k), USDA, VA,) over 1 year ago

I am sure, they laugh at us, jsut as we laugh at those in the south how everyone reacts to what the others call a little snow or ice.

I get it on the jacket, when our son and daughter moved back here from FL they were always in sweaters and jackets.

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

It's true...we have nothing to complain about today compared to what those brave man had to endure!

Posted by Sharon Tara, New Hampshire Home Stager (Sharon Tara Transformations) over 1 year ago

Sharon would we have survived I often ask my self in pioneer days, one of Trudy's favourite programs was on PBS showing this guy living off the land in Alaska all alone, it is hard work. No wonder they were all slim.

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

I hear you Nick and Trudy.  Having spend a few years in Minnesota which I can assure you is colder than Valley Forge, especially when the wind chill kicks in.  Ron and I have been stuck in a chair lift in snowy and cold conditions, and even though we had the latest and greatest insulation, we were really cold, and the winds were fierce...

Of course, I occasional complain about our wind chill in Santa Barbara at 59 degrees but feels like 49....yes, I have nothing to complain about when it comes to Valley Forge...LOL A

Posted by Ron and Alexandra Seigel, Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy (Napa Consultants) over 1 year ago

Nick and Trudy, all of the history I've read about Valley Forge makes it sound really, really freezing.  And our guys didn't even have real boots!  Love your photos.

Posted by Patricia Kennedy, Home in the Capital (RLAH Real Estate) over 1 year ago

Nick & Trudy Vandekar - You always put things into perspective and give good advice.

Whenever it gets chilly in Texas, I always say to myself, it is never this comfortable in Chicago this time of the year (where I was born and raised) and instantly I feel warmer. 

Those people in history from Valley Forge were true survivors. They focused on what was important and probably didn't complain as much as they should have. After all, they were living the life of true, "survivors of the fittest!" They had to have a positive mental attitude and probably prepared better too. Plus, they didn't have weathermen to count on either. They learned to navigate without a GPS, the Internet, or the news on T.V. 

This is a great post and photos too!!!

Posted by Patricia Feager, Selling Homes Changing Lives (DFW FINE PROPERTIES) over 1 year ago

Alexandra we all complain, we get used to those warmer climates and our blood thins out. Not sure if you have seen any of the videos of Wim Hof, he is called the ice man, swims under ice in just a pair of swim shorts, he holds all sorts of records, for handling the cold. 

Patricia Kennedy, it was cold, and they were cutting all the trees down for huts and fires so no wind breaks.

Patricia Feager, thank you for your very kind compliments. Not sure how I would have fared back then, that cold might have beaten me.

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

Hi Nick and Trudy... totally gorgeous pictures... and so real that I started shivering just looking at them!

Posted by Nina Hollander, Your Charlotte/Ballantyne/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Realtor (RE/MAX Executive | Charlotte, NC) over 1 year ago

Nina when I was posting them I was remembering how cold it was that day, lots of wind as well.

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

Good morning Nick & Trudy Vandekar ,

I remember the cold weather growing up in upstate N.Y. but I'm sure it was never as cold as Vally Forge and what those at that time endured! I get chilled now when the weather is in the 50's and its damp and rainy in Austin!

Posted by Dorie Dillard, Serving Buyers & Sellers in NW Austin Real Estate (Coldwell Banker United Realtors® ~ 512.346.1799) over 1 year ago

Dorie it is amazing how our perspective changes depending on where we are sitting.

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

Amazing pictures, i hope to visit there some day, i love history. Yesterday was -1 and today 17 but lots of snow Nick & Trudy Vandekar 

Posted by Scott Godzyk, One of Manchester NH's Leading Agents (Godzyk Real Estate Services) over 1 year ago

Nick and Trudy

I love your photos of Valley Forge - it brings back memories of many visits when i was growing up in Paoli and then Malvern. I can't imagine what those living back then had to endure during the winter.

Jeff

Posted by Jeff Dowler, CRS, The Southern California Relocation Dude - Carlsbad (Solutions Real Estate ) over 1 year ago

Well, I would certainly be complaining.  Anything below 60 degrees and I don't go outside.

Posted by Gabe Sanders, Stuart Florida Real Estate (Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales) over 1 year ago

Scott, Trudy keeps telling me that the cold is good for me, much better than heat, I am not sure I am on board yet.

Jeff Dowler I did not know you grew up in this area, thank you for the compliment on the photos. We have a big push to get the Paoli Massacre site recognized as a national monument right now.

Gabe, as I said to Scott I don't love the cold, but 60 degrees is what we are supposed to have today or close to it and after the last few days I will take it.

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

While it is much cooler than usual here in the Phoenix, AZ area Nick & Trudy Vandekar , it is nothing like the deep freeze sweeping much of the country.  Stay warm!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 1 year ago

Happy Monday Nick & Trudy Vandekar, Valley Forge was colder back then because we have goble warming now.  I remember growning up outside Allentown, Pa. and it was colder in the old days.

Posted by Will Hamm, "Where There's a Will, There's a Way!" (Hamm Homes) over 1 year ago

We are fortunate indeed to have the right kind of clothing to keep us warm.  I also like to layer for the cold.  Valley Forge was a bitter cold experience for men who fought for our freedom.

Posted by Sybil Campbell, REALTOR® ABR, SFR, SRES Williamsburg, Virginia (Long and Foster REALTORS® 5234 Monticello Ave Williamsburg, Virginia) over 1 year ago

Tony And Suzannewe have a very nice wood stove and plenty of wood to keep us warm.

Will, I remember as my Dad always used to say he went to school barefoot in the freezing cold, up hill both ways

Sybil, not sure I would cope without lots of warm clothing. I dread how those men must have felt back then.

 

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

Hi Trudy and Nick -- nothing like a little historic perspective, right?  

Posted by Michael Jacobs, Los Angeles Pasadena Area Real Estate 818.516.4393 (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage) over 1 year ago

Michael Jacobs I think you need to visit when there is snow on the ground to really get the meaning of the place.

Posted by Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543, Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line (Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400) over 1 year ago

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